Here is the AFA's reason for wanting the Book of Danial canceled. (Thank you Virgina, for pointing that out!) Text has been taken directly from their e-mail efforts:
"NBC is promoting the network's mid-season replacement series "The Book of Daniel" with language that implies it is a serious drama about Christian people and Christian faith. The main character is Daniel Webster, a drug-addicted Episcopal priest whose wife depends heavily on her mid-day martinis. Webster regularly sees and talks with a very unconventional white-robed, bearded Jesus. The Webster family is rounded out by a 23-year-old homosexual Republican son, a 16-year-old daughter who is a drug dealer, and a 16-year-old adopted son who is having sex with the bishop's daughter. At the office, his lesbian secretary is sleeping with his sister-in-law. Network hype – and the mainstream media – call it "edgy," "challenging" and "courageous." The hour-long limited drama series will debut January 6 with back-to-back episodes and will air on Friday nights. The writer for the series is a practicing homosexual. The homosexual son will be network prime-time's only regular male homosexual character in a drama series. Please use the link below to send a letter to NBC Chairman Bob Wright. Next, please forward this to your family and friends today! Those at NBC responsible for this program consider it a good, religiously oriented show typical of Christian families. "
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Um, well I saw the show and it wasnt much different then that letter. It was a bad show to begin with and got cancelled for being a bad show with bad ratings, I honestly doubt that these people helped it die early, didnt help it any, but the show was going to die quick and painfully no matter what.
Well Cody, I see what you're saying about parents taking more action in their childrens' lives. I've been saying that for years. I totally agree with you there. However, I really don't see anything wrong with a lobby expressing their opinion and making efforts to have them acted upon. They are trying to stop the immorality that is constantly being pushed on television. So they wrote letters and if that is what actually got the show off the air (which I doubt could do it alone) then more power to them Their voices were heard.
~Virginia
His point was it would have been fine if they just wrote, but they demanded no one watch it even and just complain rather then letting people decide for themselves, and if they didn't like it write to complain. I see nothing wrong with what they did, it's what people like that do to make themselves feel special and if they need that, then more power to them. But with a bad show like this again, it's death was going to be quick and painful no matter who complained
The point I'm trying to make isn't about morality in television. It's that the U.S. was founded on, and has traditionally grown upon individual liberty. It is a key ideology of fascism that individual liberties are completely moot; it's what is best for society. This takes form in areas of national security, and moral issues such as this one. It, to me, raises an alarm when we begin to justify a forfeiture of individual liberty for "the good of society".
And as to "their voices" being heard; Stalin, Hitler, Mao, all of their voices were heard too.
I think a more ridiculous stand the AFA has taken was the lambasting of NBC when Janet Jackson had her "wardrobe malfunction". I don't think there has ever been a consensus that a majority of Americans felt that it was that big of a deal; however, the AFA succeeded in pushing the FCC to administer a ludicrous fine to NBC. (between 75%-85% of all complaints received by the FCC come from the AFA-OMD/OMM.) So, it isn't clear that the AFA represents a majority, and it's very possible that they are just a very vocal minority, achieving big results in a pernicious direction.
Right, but they did nothing wrong. They did not believe the show should air. It still did. And then it was shut off because it was crap. Big deal. They expressed their opinions. There is nothing wrong with that. They have an ability to get what they want, and it seems that when it isn't in your favor you don't like it.
I was going to reply to this last comment, but I think it would be a waste of type because it would like always, go right over the head of those it was intended towards.
I think what you're missing is that the AFA has targeted voices of decent. From advertisements featuring homosexual couples, to television shows depicting an adverse view of the standard American family.
There are certainly television shows that I find heavily objectionable. Programs such as The Real World, Laguna Beach, anything on TBN; however, I think that the people should be left to decide what it is they chose to watch, or chose to tune away from. The AFA didn't want a single episode to air; they felt the people shouldn't chose for themselves. And they, too, were successful in coercing several affiliates to drop the show, so in some areas, the people never got the opportunity to make an informed decision for themselves.
I will scream and yell about the indecency of such programing as The real world, but at the end of the day, it's up to you to make the choice.
Cody Hobbs
I did get the point, they are trying to stop immorality from being spread across American society like a plague of indecency. I'm not saying you should not be given the choice of what you want to watch, that's your priority. If your a sex fiend and you feel like watching nothing but porn all day long on television, does that mean that networks should market it and put it on tv? And if people like the AFA members do not like it, they can just tune out? It brings on the degeneration of morals and decency. Desensitizing human beings to others' personal pain. Turning it into entertaiment, and bombarding it down people's throats until you can't tell the difference between fact and fiction. I'm not saying everything should be limited to Brady Bunch episodes, but there are things that do cross boundaries that shouldn't be aired, or at least not in the pubilc areana like that.
~Virginia
Virginia,
You bring up an excellent point, and in fact, obscenity (including pornography) is not considered speech; therefore, it is not protected under First Amendment protection. And you raise another excellent question: If it is being shoved down our throat; do we really have a choice?
Cody Hobbs
Desperate Housewives is as close to porn as you can get on tv, as was NYPD Blue, well received and long running shows. Will&Grace has gay people in it, one an over the top sterotype and it also has had a good long run, but these shows never really picked up much of a rally against them and well I have never watched any of them truthfully. Nothing on TV is ever rammed down our throats except celeberty news, political news basically real life is what we consistantly find on TV and I must say that's one of the worst things for our society. I mean Brangelina is such a reknowed couple, god forbid we truly look at the fact that a marriage was destroyed for it to happen, Angelina is pregnant now so thus is was never all that wrong to begin with, nor is the fact a child is being born out of wedlock.We can find out Mr.Sportstar makes 10 million a year but it's not enough, he wants more because he is the team, shows our kids alot of good about what they should be like (sarcasm here) and back in November, it was hard to find a news report on any medium not talking about T.O. So, basically, to quote Clueless somewhat, until the real world stops being so wrong for us all, why should TV shows take it out when they need it for entertainment value. Virgina, you raise good points but at the end of the day, the real world (not the TV show) is whats truly wrong with society.
I agree with you both, but I do believe that the T.V. shows do add to the problem. I think that they both reflect eachother at times, and in turn feed off eachother as well. So it turns into a constant theme of immorality. Though the real life situations are worse, because natuarally, they're real life. I totaly agree with you there Tank. I mean we can all point out the immoralities in shows on tv and in the media. Be they fact or fiction, and I do not think that its bennificial for society. Like you mentioned, it makes bad role models for children, it makes all of the ignorant people think that its the way to be - destroy a marriage so that you can have the woman's husband. It depleats society, and to get back to the AFA, I think they rocognize that fact, and are trying to stop it. You may not agree with what they are doing, Cody, you think its fascist, but consider why they're doing it. They are not trying to take away your right to choose what you want to watch, they are trying to preserve the ounce of decency left in society. If we have so much immorality in real life, I don't think we need the added reenforcement of it on television. I think part of the reason why people don't question the wrongs in real life situations (like the Angelina thing) is partly due to what I said earlier, we have become desensitized to the indecency of it. Anyways, I've bounced around from point to point too much and probably never said what I actually meant, so I'm done. oh, what was the T.O. thing you referenced to?
~Virginia
Good point Virgina, I agree they are just doing what they felt is right and nothing is too wrong with that, weither it's facist or not is in the mind of the beholder I suppose. And I believe that is the point of this blog, to motive people to do what they feel is right for society itself.
The T.O or Terrel Owens thing is he plays football and has always been a loud mouth. He wanted off the 49ers so he could be the star of another team, he went to the Eagles, all seemed well, then he decided a year after signing a new contract he wanted more money and a longer contract, the Eagles refused seeing as they were paying him alot a year as is, he got mad, refused to be a team player and eventually starting verbal and psychical fights with his team till they suspended him for the year due to his attitude
Yeah, your right, what a good example for children.
Its time to update Mr. Hobbs.
~Virginia
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